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[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 06:18 PM


Yeah, it's not a fresh engine so it may have alittle blow as it sits now, especially under boost, so I don't want it to recirculate into the intake which could cause oil build up on the intake valves and on into the combustion chamber causing detonation. One other thing being a MAF car I don't want any oil residue to get into the MAF sensor, which will be from a 05-09 mustang in a blow thru configuration.

I've considered doing either a header evac system, where you put a tube on the exhaust header at a 45 and use the exhaust to pull a vacuum as it increases in RPM or the electric pump/oil catch can. The only reason I've settled with the pump/can system is that I've tuned a car with the exhaust type and it would smoke at higher RPM when it was really sucking it out and since it was in the exhaust it would burn it.

The benefit to all of this is to help make the rings seal therefor keeping combustion pressure high and pumping loss is reduced too. The trick will be using a pump that's not too big or too small, I'm going to start with a 1/2 evac pump from a late model GM ecotech engine like in the HHR or Cobalt.

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[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 06:34 PM


ok gotcha...definitely not a good look on a blow through system with MAF. thought you'd be doing draw-through which is why i suggested plumbing between the MAF and the compressor.

i know the suction will help keep the rings expanded...and using the suction from the turbo inlet would definitely take the guess work out of pump sizing, because suction would increase with boost pressure, but that'll only work on a draw through or straight MAP setup.

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[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 07:56 PM


u guys know way to much that sounded like pure giberish to me and i thought i was a decent mechanic. :dunce:

im glad the spray gun worked, i just wasnt sure about it. its lookin good, im goin to start mine this weekend.




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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 10:41 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Doug904  
I think I didn't have a large enough PCV system, I only had one 5/8 hose going to a tank but this time I'm going with three off the valve cover and a electric pump to pull the gases out.

Of course too much RPM could have been a contributing factor, trying to stay in 4th at the end of the 1/4 rather then upshift to 5th meant I had to rev it to 7800 rpm's. I'm going to a larger tire this time to try and bring the RPM down at the end.

Tuning of course, I was using the SAFC2 but it was a bandaid to a true management system. This time I'm going to a Ford factory ECC-V from an Escort and this way I'll have full controll over anything as well as datalogging and a Mass-Air flow based system that will help make changes at part throttle to keep the driveability nice.

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[Edited on 4-12-2012 by Doug904]
Aww and once again the SAFC and the 4/5 E TPS raises it's ugly head! Yeah I'm staying away from that stuff!

Still the whole Ford ECC-V, seems abit overkill, but I guess if your using a MAF instaed of a MAP that's the way to go.

I know GT can make that SAFC stuff work but I think for the rest of us,stay clear of that crap.

I'm with Darksaint on the EVAC thing? I'll just go with a catch can and call it a day.

[Edited on 5-12-2012 by chip18sw]




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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 11:23 AM


The Ford controls are much less overkill then a $500+ stand alone and works in a factory format that for me is endlessly tunable and easy. I would love to be able to offer these set ups for others too but I'm gonna start with my own first.

I tune cars daily and can tell you the biggest part of tuning is not WOT but rather normal daily driving and cold start. This is what I want, a very fun car at the track and on the street but most of all I want to be able to crank it cold and drive away happy. It's been a dedicated race car with the SAFC2 and it idled at 1200 rpm and would choke you out in the staging lanes if you let it idle. The Safc didn't give me the precise fuel control I can get from a MAF and the TB will be either a 65 or 70 from a mustang.

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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 08:04 PM


Cool man I'm not doubting you.I just can't imagine how it would be done? So if you do it a build thread would be much appreciated!
I have heard of some of the V8 guys using Honda ECM's and stuff so I know this kind of thing is done.

The 4/5 E's TPS seems to be a PIA but there are a few guys that have found work arounds. Huckmubb, on here showed us how to hook up a Bosch spark control box to use with the MS, that gets you around the dirty ignition signal problem, And on TTGT one of the guys showed how to use the 4efet AT TPS on a 5 speed car to give the MS the TPS signal it needs.

I believe the AT TPS would also be the answer for the SAFC problems with these motors but not something I'll be doing.

Anyway keep us posted and great work!

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[*] posted on 31-12-2012 at 01:00 AM


Hey guys,

Its been a few weeks and the holidays so its been hard finding the time or money to work on the Seo but I've tried to go after the bodywork side of things, thinking it would be quick and easy :dunce: WRONG

The hard parts were the things I thought would be easiest, filling the body holes from the spoiler and antenna and fixing the big dent in the roof and scratch, small dent and winsheild spray nozzles removed. After consulting alot of different people, thanks mostly to DarkSaint!!, I'm about 75% done. No pictures of the roof as I'm not even close on it yet, lol...


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I went to a local Paint store and had them mix a quart based off the factory 746 paint code, now that its dry its close but much shinier then the outside, lol. Guess without the 20 years of sunshine it used to be that nice.



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I used two part epoxy to fill in the holes then normal spot filler(bondo) over it. I have to air sanders so I started with my angle die grinder and gasket remover disc, WOW was that the wrong thing to do,lol. I ended up using these neat sanding squares I found at the dollar store, guess what they cost! I bought one to start with, then went back for more, alot more.


The antenna groove is proving much more of a ordeal. Just learn of fiberglass netting procedure today but this is such a PIA. I'd rather wire the titanic then do this again. I'll stick to what I know best, engine tuning.

Thanks, Doug

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[*] posted on 31-12-2012 at 01:07 AM


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[*] posted on 31-12-2012 at 12:52 PM


when you get it running drive it up here and leave it with me for a week ill have it all done and nice looking.
If you do it your self make sure to put down the bondo in layers, notall at once and do it at angles that way it fools the eye when you look at it. Make sure you primer the bondo spots, mosture and bondo are a bad mix. once you get all the bondo done you will need to prime the bondo spots, they will suck up the base coat. then buy some good oil grease remover, i get all my stuff from car quest, aply with paper towels and wipe clean. then my favorite part tapeing:curse:. once all that is done spray a couple of coats, let dry, wet sand and if you like the finish buff if not spray again.
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[*] posted on 31-12-2012 at 01:46 PM


Once I'm through with what I've done now I'm gonna prime it and bring it to you when it's running. Not saying the body work will be complete but Ill knock down the high spots and let you finish. This stuff SUCKs, I'm sooo not a body man lol.



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[*] posted on 31-12-2012 at 04:01 PM


lol just make sure no moisture gets in the bondo, just through some paint on the bondo spots and i will take care of it



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[*] posted on 21-7-2013 at 06:44 PM


Dropped off a few things at the machine shop, can't wait to get it all back, CLEAN and ready :pepper:









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[*] posted on 21-7-2013 at 09:43 PM



What are the plans for the car?




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[*] posted on 21-7-2013 at 10:05 PM


I'm building it to drive but mainly drag race, kinda like Alf. It's went from a street car to a stripped down race car and now back to a street car. I'm not sure if I'm gonna run true slicks at the track or just BFG drag radials.

As for the engine I have new pistons, ARP everything, and forged 5e crank. The cylinder head has been ported and polished, cruise springs and 5EFHE cams. Ported ACIS intake manifold with either a 65 or 70mm TB. For engine management I'm running a factory ford system from a DIS-4 OBD2 system that I full control of with SCT tuning software.

Here's the funny part, the pistons are .020 EBay cast replacements. They'll be on first gen 5e rods. Why, because I can lol. I've always done my previous runs on stock pistons and its made as much as 313whp. Thinking I'm gonna go for around 300 this time, sort my suspension out, and spray it to get anything else I want.

Can't wait to get it together!




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[*] posted on 21-9-2013 at 10:12 PM


Had my ACIS intake manifold modified for use with my Ford throttle body, still haven't decided if I'm going 65 or 70mm. He completely cut the flange off the manifold, opening it up and then added the Ford flange I provided. He also added the Ford Idle air control valve on the back of the intake.











I need to update this post greatly as I have alot of my parts from the machine shop and other places.





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