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[*] posted on 24-7-2011 at 04:36 PM


my paint skillz arent as dope as alfs(seriously im not even sure how you do some of the things youve done with paint) but they get the job done




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[*] posted on 24-7-2011 at 04:40 PM


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true talk - we actually marvel at this collectively.:thumbup:

like ''how the hell does he do that with paint? PAINT?''




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[*] posted on 24-7-2011 at 04:50 PM


there we go...now it makes perfect sense..lol



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[*] posted on 24-7-2011 at 05:13 PM


Quote: Originally posted by sleepyrz  

here is a more accurate representation


alf :dunno:

[Edited on 7/24/2011 by alfradio]




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[*] posted on 24-7-2011 at 05:44 PM


Quote: Originally posted by sleepyrz  
depends on what you are using to trigger the VSV/solenoid


what will be triggering the solenoid?

haltech-not sure of amperagee output

msd switch-1.5 amps

granatelli switch-2 amps

your best bet is a NOS window rpm switch they can drive solenoids directly up to ~15 amps http://www.holley.com/data/Products/Technical/199R10482rev4.pdf

or find a VSV with low amperage draw under 2 amps and get the granatelli

honestly though

the simplest method ive thought of so far is:

take off diaphragm and all that so all that is left is the arm to move the butterflies

then take it to an airplane/helicopter hobby shop hand it to him and say i need a servo motor twelve volt that will move this arm here back and forth this far

then get rpm switch to activate servo

and done

servo moves arm when rpm is reached


I just read the docs that came with my window switch and it says: "These do not carry enough current to directly drive solenoids".




I actually took the manifold to several places and couldn't find a unit to open the butterflies. I will get a relay or find a low amp VSV switch and use the vacuum.

[Edited on 7-24-2011 by ddavis]
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[*] posted on 24-7-2011 at 06:06 PM


Quote: Originally posted by sleepyrz  
here is a more accurate representation



Resized to 640 by alf

[Edited on 7/24/2011 by alfradio]


Why is there a connection to the intake manifold?
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[*] posted on 24-7-2011 at 06:13 PM


Quote: Originally posted by alfradio  
Quote: Originally posted by sleepyrz  

here is a more accurate representation


alf :dunno:


only things of concern to you are those in the original diagram you posted alf

the above modification of the diagram was just for those who dont know where a brake booster gets its vacuum from..:doh: he just included the check valve that's a part of the brake booster line to show that you tap the vsv into the line between the booster and the check valve.

i'm thinkin i may have to find my way down to sleepyrz and actually do this mod and take pictures :dunno:

it's really not that hard - do you guys really not know where a brake booster gets it's vacuum from?




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[*] posted on 24-7-2011 at 06:15 PM


I understand where it gets it from...I was just making the original diagram over complicated.

It makes sense now, I was more or less just looking for clarification that way when I get to that mod I already know exactly everything I need so I dont screw it up. I would prefer to ask stupid questions to be 100% correct, then refrain from asking and possibly be wrong.

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[*] posted on 24-7-2011 at 06:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by alfradio  


alf now gets it - according to this diagram (although the acis line would be more the same size as the one coming from the acis actuator - like actual vacuum hose size...and it would be tee'd into the booster line) but, alf gets the concept.:deal:

and no fowler, the check valves are independent of each other.

the one for the booster performs a separate function than that associated with the vsv..and the on associated with the vsv would be typically much smaller than that used for brake booster duty.:deal:




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[*] posted on 24-7-2011 at 06:59 PM


Yeah, after I typed what I did, i realized it wouldnt work...so I editted what I wanted to say.

Good to have clarification though, now I have peace of mind and the correct understanding for this concept when I go to hook it up....whenever that may be.




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[*] posted on 24-7-2011 at 11:23 PM


Quote: Originally posted by GT_REVVA  
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true talk - we actually marvel at this collectively.:thumbup:

like ''how the hell does he do that with paint? PAINT?''


thats nothing

i used to be a wiz @ Paint doing Photoshop like editing to pictures of cars...unfortunately all that past work died with the old computer i used to use


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[*] posted on 25-7-2011 at 05:36 PM


of course it would work

you just need DAOX's DIS spacer and youd be done as he made the spacer a transition plate from DIS to reg 5e ports already





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[*] posted on 25-7-2011 at 06:34 PM


Quote: Originally posted by sleepyrz  

honestly though

the simplest method ive thought of so far is:

take off diaphragm and all that so all that is left is the arm to move the butterflies

then take it to an airplane/helicopter hobby shop hand it to him and say i need a servo motor twelve volt that will move this arm here back and forth this far

then get rpm switch to activate servo

and done

servo moves arm when rpm is reached

That's a killer and pretty simple idea. :2thumbsup:Just needa create some kinda apparatus/bracketry to hold the servo where you need it, to get the range of movement you need and "MONEY".

Of course you'd still need to electronically activate that servo, but the RPM activation part you guys already got down.




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[*] posted on 25-7-2011 at 06:42 PM


yea - was even talkin about using one of the additional inj/output channels of the EMB as the RPM activator.:deal:

you know how we island boys use wha we got D.:smug:

[Edited on 25-7-2011 by GT_REVVA]




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[*] posted on 26-7-2011 at 08:32 AM


So those additional injector output channels could basically act as your RPM switch??? Would love to see how that might work, and actually see it work in a video or something.



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