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sleepyrz
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![[*]](./images/reveal/default_icon.gif) posted on 28-7-2010 at 10:38 AM |
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if its down to running out of boost suddenly
is it possible its compressor surge
the turbo is pushing too much air for the engine to take in loses grip on the air and flows back resulting in a sudden loss of boost pressure and an
odd chattering sound
here is that to4b s trim turbo compressor map overlayed with demand lines for a 1.5 liter motor
you are pretty well to the left into surge land^^^
nowww here is what mulberrry just suggested you use
see how the demand lines are covered now
4EFTE ............................................. HKS IRIDIUM PLUGS (BYP)
GReddy E-MANAGE (BYP).................3\" MANDREL BENT EXHAUST
3\'\' IN/OUT MUFFLER DEEP TONE......GReddy FULL AUTO TIMER
DISABLED SPEED LIMITER...............FUEL CUT DEFENDER
COLORMATCHED BYP HARNESS.......KYB GR2\'s
SARD BOV........................................HI LIFT CAM
TURBO XS 2STAGE BOOST CONTROLLER
FRONT SWAYBAR..............................FRONT STRUTBAR
STAINLESS DECAT D/P.....................CUSTOM INTAKE SETUP
GAUGES(BOOST,TACH).....................STARION FMIC
TRD plug wires.................................2\" drop eibach springs
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tercel613
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| posted on 28-7-2010 at 06:13 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulberry
| Quote: | Originally posted by tercel613
no it's not as simple as just too much fuel..... there is something else... so we didn't bother tuning it more cause it wouldn't make any more power
afterwards.... it's not caused by drowning in fuel... |
Are you running an external waste gate??? |
yes i am.... 38mm i think...
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tercel613
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| posted on 28-7-2010 at 06:17 PM |
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so you guys are thinking it's more the turbo then the valve springs???
i'd just like to make sure i have teh best solution for my problem before redoing everything...
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| posted on 28-7-2010 at 08:41 PM |
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BUY A V8
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| posted on 28-7-2010 at 08:50 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Malibuguy
BUY A V8
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"You wouldn't have that problem with a V8!"
"Boys and their big engines..."
[Edited on 29-7-2010 by mantafelix]
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| posted on 28-7-2010 at 10:35 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mantafelix
| Quote: | Originally posted by Malibuguy
BUY A V8
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"You wouldn't have that problem with a V8!"
"Boys and their big engines..."
[Edited on 29-7-2010 by mantafelix] |
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sleepyrz
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| posted on 29-7-2010 at 09:22 PM |
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we need video of the sound it didnt sound like anything on the dyno video
heres a video
http://www.streetfire.net/video/true-turbo-compressor-surge_163406.htm
4EFTE ............................................. HKS IRIDIUM PLUGS (BYP)
GReddy E-MANAGE (BYP).................3\" MANDREL BENT EXHAUST
3\'\' IN/OUT MUFFLER DEEP TONE......GReddy FULL AUTO TIMER
DISABLED SPEED LIMITER...............FUEL CUT DEFENDER
COLORMATCHED BYP HARNESS.......KYB GR2\'s
SARD BOV........................................HI LIFT CAM
TURBO XS 2STAGE BOOST CONTROLLER
FRONT SWAYBAR..............................FRONT STRUTBAR
STAINLESS DECAT D/P.....................CUSTOM INTAKE SETUP
GAUGES(BOOST,TACH).....................STARION FMIC
TRD plug wires.................................2\" drop eibach springs
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catch you on the flipside,
Dave
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tercel613
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| posted on 30-7-2010 at 05:13 AM |
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oh no.... it didn't sound anything like that..... i'll look to see if i have another video with better sound.....
alex
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sleepyrz
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| posted on 30-7-2010 at 03:47 PM |
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id say weak wastegate or possibly exhaust restriction
how is the exhaust after the turbo and is the wastegate open to atmosphere
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if you could please try to take more current photos
also you might want to pressure test your intake system
use a tire air valve on the end of a can of soup and attach that to the turbo piping and pressurize it and see where the air leaks out if any at all
4EFTE ............................................. HKS IRIDIUM PLUGS (BYP)
GReddy E-MANAGE (BYP).................3\" MANDREL BENT EXHAUST
3\'\' IN/OUT MUFFLER DEEP TONE......GReddy FULL AUTO TIMER
DISABLED SPEED LIMITER...............FUEL CUT DEFENDER
COLORMATCHED BYP HARNESS.......KYB GR2\'s
SARD BOV........................................HI LIFT CAM
TURBO XS 2STAGE BOOST CONTROLLER
FRONT SWAYBAR..............................FRONT STRUTBAR
STAINLESS DECAT D/P.....................CUSTOM INTAKE SETUP
GAUGES(BOOST,TACH).....................STARION FMIC
TRD plug wires.................................2\" drop eibach springs
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catch you on the flipside,
Dave
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tercel613
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| posted on 30-7-2010 at 09:33 PM |
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weak wastegate could be possible considering it's a knock off one so maybe it's not of a good quality enough??? the exhaust is 3in electric dump
right off the turbo.... the wastegate is recirculated in the exhaust.... i'll try and pressurize the intake and take pics of the setup.... i'm going
away for the week so i'll do that next week.... thanks for the help...
[Edited on 31-7-2010 by tercel613]
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sleepyrz
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| posted on 31-7-2010 at 01:20 AM |
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at least get some pics!
yea knockoff.............. 
i want a real turbo, wastegate, and blow off valve
most other stuff can be knockoff but those are the 3 i wont go knockoff on
4EFTE ............................................. HKS IRIDIUM PLUGS (BYP)
GReddy E-MANAGE (BYP).................3\" MANDREL BENT EXHAUST
3\'\' IN/OUT MUFFLER DEEP TONE......GReddy FULL AUTO TIMER
DISABLED SPEED LIMITER...............FUEL CUT DEFENDER
COLORMATCHED BYP HARNESS.......KYB GR2\'s
SARD BOV........................................HI LIFT CAM
TURBO XS 2STAGE BOOST CONTROLLER
FRONT SWAYBAR..............................FRONT STRUTBAR
STAINLESS DECAT D/P.....................CUSTOM INTAKE SETUP
GAUGES(BOOST,TACH).....................STARION FMIC
TRD plug wires.................................2\" drop eibach springs
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catch you on the flipside,
Dave
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tercel613
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| posted on 9-8-2010 at 09:19 AM |
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wastegate was teh only knock off part i used.... was getting short on money a couple years ago....
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tercel613
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| posted on 9-8-2010 at 09:22 AM |
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wastegate was teh only knock off part i used.... was getting short on money a couple years ago....
here are a couple pics...
guess ill order valvesrpings today 
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sleepyrz
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| posted on 9-8-2010 at 12:36 PM |
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pressure test?
and your turbo is too large
many people are making over 300 whp on smaller turbos
plus the turbo you have is an old antiquated design
there are a million choices in turbo that are better suited for this task
was it free?? found it in a dump truck?
ive seen an evo8 turbo make 300 whp easy (td05h 16g6 9.8T)
ive seen a GT35R make liek 340WHP
t3/t04E 57 trim made i think 290 at the wheels
i can think of a million cars making more horsepower than you with a turbo that is much much smaller
1. how much are you looking to make HP?
2. did you pressure test?
3. it looks like your wastegate gasket blew out in those pictures go check it
4. what size throttle body is that?
5. what size piping before the throttle body?
6. also what size is the pipe for your turbo manifold it looks enormous? 1.75"??
[Edited on 8/9/10 by sleepyrz]
4EFTE ............................................. HKS IRIDIUM PLUGS (BYP)
GReddy E-MANAGE (BYP).................3\" MANDREL BENT EXHAUST
3\'\' IN/OUT MUFFLER DEEP TONE......GReddy FULL AUTO TIMER
DISABLED SPEED LIMITER...............FUEL CUT DEFENDER
COLORMATCHED BYP HARNESS.......KYB GR2\'s
SARD BOV........................................HI LIFT CAM
TURBO XS 2STAGE BOOST CONTROLLER
FRONT SWAYBAR..............................FRONT STRUTBAR
STAINLESS DECAT D/P.....................CUSTOM INTAKE SETUP
GAUGES(BOOST,TACH).....................STARION FMIC
TRD plug wires.................................2\" drop eibach springs
===========================
catch you on the flipside,
Dave
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tercel613
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| posted on 9-8-2010 at 02:09 PM |
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1- i'd like about 275 whp
2- no leak issue.... tested with everything connected and also tested the intake manifold seperatly...
3- must be just the pic.... no issue there...
4- throttle body is 75mm
5- 2.5 inch piping between intercooler and throttle body and 2 inches between turbo and intercooler
6- 1.75 OD with .125 wall thickness so 1.5 ID
and you must be mistaking my turbo size.... a t3/t04b s-trim is about the size of a t3 super 60..... nothing comparable to a gt35r. the t3/t04b
s-trim is rated for 350hp max.... this is the flow chart for the turbo i have: http://www.blaastperformance.com/big.php?ref=90
[Edited on 9-8-2010 by tercel613]
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