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[*] posted on 10-5-2010 at 07:14 PM
5efte +TD04 + Water Injection


Ok guys just getting some opinions here just got a water /meth kit along with some other goodies just wanted to no what you guys thought about this set up:

the build specs are
5e
4efte pistons
1.2 mm HG
emanage blue
innovate lc1
360cc injectors
tdo4

so i was thinking about running 20 psi with denatured alcohole

what do you guys think ?
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[*] posted on 11-5-2010 at 03:41 AM


Why denatured alcohol? Denatured alcohol is basically ethonal. Methonal is is the better option for delaying knock. Water does it pretty mean too.



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[*] posted on 11-5-2010 at 11:33 AM


cause i cant get meth in St lucia
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[*] posted on 11-5-2010 at 12:37 PM


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[*] posted on 11-5-2010 at 07:31 PM


ok im kinda lost guys ???????:icon help::dunno::dunno:
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[*] posted on 11-5-2010 at 08:10 PM


Be good if you guys could also give him some input as well.



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[*] posted on 11-5-2010 at 09:04 PM


The Buick GN guys are big time into water injection. How much do you know already? WIgives you about 105 to 108 octane. You can just add it to any motor but to maximize it's use you need to be able to add timing but if you start to add timing then you need to add a fail safe.
Coolingmist has some good stuff as do others.

Here's a good site you can build your own system but again need to add a WI controller if you want to maximize the system. But a basic system well help protect your motor,WI is just capable of making power with more timing and less boost.

http://members.cox.net/stevemonroe/AlcoholInjMod.html

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[*] posted on 12-5-2010 at 12:09 PM


ok could you expand on this part please "to add timing but if you start to add timing then you need to add a fail safe.

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[*] posted on 12-5-2010 at 12:53 PM


Ok first you don't need to add timing to run water injection! A standard kit will work just fine out of the box!
The add timing depends on how your engine management is set up. If you can adjust timing that is where you will see the biggest benefits from WI or E 85.

That is because the higher octane,cooler mixtures and better resistance to detonation allow you to run more timing. The more timing you can run the more power you can make.

But if you tune your motor to run more timing with WI if the system fails, you'll have a melt down unless you have a fail safe!!

None of this is critical if you are running standard timing! If your current setup doesn't allow you to adjust timing then you have no worries! Just do a basic WI install with a quality kit and all will be well!:blush:




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[*] posted on 12-5-2010 at 01:15 PM


well im running a EMB and would like to add some timming so what sort of fail safe are we talking about ?

will it retard timming if the system failf or sut my engine down ?
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[*] posted on 12-5-2010 at 01:28 PM


http://www.coolingmist.com/pagedisplay.aspx?feature_key=safety

You can call these guys, this is where it starts to get expensive but you can build the system in stages.

I think something like the unit below is what you would be after.

http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=cmgs




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[*] posted on 12-5-2010 at 01:34 PM


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cause i cant get meth in St lucia


i was just joking around about this sentence. sorry for puttin stupid :censored: in your thread. i'll take care of it

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[*] posted on 12-5-2010 at 01:48 PM


GA noob thats kool bro LOL i only now get the joke lol:pepper:
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[*] posted on 12-5-2010 at 02:00 PM


A failsafe in regards to methonal injection kits are a sensor that is tied into the meth kit and monitors the flow of the alky/water. If it senses no flow in the lines the meth kit's computer/brain is wired into your car in such a way that it'll cut the system and shut teh car down.

They are good precautions, but not the cheapest. I run the coolingmist system no failsafe, no majorly advanced timing, and it does great.




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[*] posted on 12-5-2010 at 02:09 PM


Don Sup Bro long time dont even see you on line no more

thanks for the imput bro

now inregards to nozzel or injector size what do you guys recomend ??
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