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[*] posted on 29-9-2008 at 09:50 AM
5E Throttle Body upgrade/UPGRADE!!


Some of you may have already seen these pics before but I made an aluminum TB spacer last week to compensate for the difference of the 3E intake and the 5E TB. If nothing else it looks a little cleaner.




Here are a couple of pics of the spacer




And here are some with it installed








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[*] posted on 29-9-2008 at 01:20 PM


looks awesome ! you gonna paint any other parts? cause that thing must be jumping out as soon as you pop the hood...



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[*] posted on 29-9-2008 at 02:53 PM


It sure does.....I just wanted to try out some ceramic high temp paint to see if it would hold up. Thanks for compliments.







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[*] posted on 30-9-2008 at 02:17 AM


Cool Should see if you can do it with phenolic. That is what Doax's TB insulators are made of. I actually used the one my insulator from my 3ee, but bored it out to match the 5efe TB.



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[*] posted on 30-9-2008 at 06:14 AM


me & austin ran a corolla 4afe TB on his for a while, but it never quite sealed right, so it surged @ idle, but it did run good on the top end



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[*] posted on 30-9-2008 at 07:42 AM


I'm sure I could do it with phenolic but I have aluminum readily available. Did save the program though so may try it in the future.

4afe huh? Is the bore bigger than the 5E TB? Did you have to bore out the intake?






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[*] posted on 30-9-2008 at 10:40 AM


forgive me if i sound dumb but, does the 5E TB make a big difference? and why use this spacer?





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[*] posted on 30-9-2008 at 11:02 AM


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forgive me if i sound dumb but, does the 5E TB make a big difference? and why use this spacer?

Larger diameter at the butterfly. I noticed that I could take it to a higher RPM with a better power output and the engine doesn't sound like it want's to rattle to pieces.:lachen:




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[*] posted on 30-9-2008 at 11:03 AM


Big difference - no, but does help the engine rev a little quicker. There is a noticeable difference between the 3E and 5E TB while driving.

The reason for the TB spacer is that there is a difference between the mounting flanges. If you were to bolt up a 5E TB to the 3E manifold there would be a open space on the side where air would get through causeing you car to not run well. Basically a very big vacume leak. Most people use JB weld or silicone to block the holes including myself. It works but isn't pretty.






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[*] posted on 30-9-2008 at 09:05 PM


great idea, dont see to many red t.bs
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[*] posted on 1-10-2008 at 06:08 AM


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I'm sure I could do it with phenolic but I have aluminum readily available. Did save the program though so may try it in the future.

4afe huh? Is the bore bigger than the 5E TB? Did you have to bore out the intake?


IIRC it was bigger then the 1st gen paseo TB that we almost got & the 5th gen 5efe TB is smaller then the paseo TB again IIRC, so we were like fack it, lets try it




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[*] posted on 1-10-2008 at 08:41 AM


the 3ee tb is the same outer diameter as the 4afe tb, BUT, the 3e tb narrows before the throttle plate, so it is actually smaller.
the 5efe throttle body is the same size all the way through, but has a smaller diameter to start out with.
the 4afe tb has the same diameter as the 3e tb, and the size is consistent all the way through.

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[*] posted on 1-10-2008 at 11:35 AM


Ok... The 3E has a 45mm bore. The 1st gen 5E has a 50mm bore and the 4afe has a 52mm bore. The 3E manifold has a 50mm bore as well so by putting a 4afe TB on the 3E manifold there would be a very small step between the two. Probably wouldn't even be able to see the difference of 2mm, but I wonder if it would effect the air flow.





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[*] posted on 1-10-2008 at 11:50 AM


i had a 2nd gen 5e tb, so thats what i was referencing.




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[*] posted on 1-10-2008 at 12:30 PM


That would make sense then.





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